Week 5 Assignment Post

Here is what you need to do before class on Monday:

Read pages 225-265 in the Fusco book; read these selections from the Interventionists book (follow this link (3.8 MB)) and inSite 05 (links below); listen to the Bad at Sports interview with the Center for Tactical Magic; make at least two thoughtful comments here regarding the readings; post four links to your del.icio.us page; write a working proposal for your Social Intervention project (please email this to me if possible).

Here are the links to intervention projects from inSite 05:

Paul Ramírez-Jonas

Måns Wrange and here

Judi Werthein

João Louro

Here are some considerations:

  • How is a figure like Alejandro Jodorowsky especially pertinent to current students of art, and more particularly to students like you in programs like VaPA?
  • Respond to Bustamante’s contention that the group movement in Mexico ended with the 1983 MAM exhibition. What other “institutionalizations” are you aware of and what effect do you think such recognition or inclusion has on artists and art forms/trends that were previously uncannonized?
  • Link or trace the use of the term “tactics,” especially in the Thompson essay and the Chavoya essay. How does this term function and how is this useful in your efforts to construct an intervention proposal?
  • Respond to the direct dealing with situation, concept, space, community, and issue in Asco’s work. Does this account of some of their projects help you in concieving your own piece? (What direct issues are you involved in/aware of and do they seem like subjects for art work to you?)


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23 responses to “Week 5 Assignment Post

  1. Cheri Soulia

    The Interventionists are simply hilarious! I just can not get over how funny they are…although the things they show are funny, they can also be very serious and they talk about potential problems with society. By using visual images that people are bombarded with everyday they are critizing the use of advertisement and the political issues behind them.

  2. ladywood

    Asco’s work helps me question concept, space, community and issues in my own art. I ask HOW these aspects of art can be tackled in my work. Is the concept involving? Is the space free or confined? Is the community involved? Is this an issue we can all relate to? It helps me evaluate my art in different views.

  3. ladywood

    The Bad at Sports show was so hysterical. They had me hooked with “No, Keanu Reeves won’t have you,” “But we’re both Canadian!” I think they had some good points on architectural space and manipulating perceptions and magic being used every day. The story with the ninja and training, the private investigator and following, and the magician with illustrating magic, was great.

  4. Trinityblk

    I personally am having a hard time getting through these readings. I don’t understand the “what” or the “how” if the book sections. I agree with Cheri that some of the Interventionist materials are funny , but are we minimalize their “purpose” by focusing on the “lighter” side of their work. At the same time I don’t understand their purpose and the significance of their purpose so maybe the “lighter” side is what we should be focusing on. We are covering the exact same material in my Tactical Media class and it makes no more sense in that class either. I know this type of art isn’t math (2+2=4), but then again I’ve not been the greatest at understanding math either.

  5. Cheri Soulia

    Is it just me or was that interview completely random? I thought it was all over including all the weird music they were playing in the backgorund. I could hardly keep up with the ongoing conversation. I really didn’t see the validity of it and I was really confused.

  6. cleasure

    The term “tactics,” as used in the Chavoya essay, relates to the specific element of each of Asco’s performances that made the performance successful. In some of their performances, their use of space was their “tactic” because their performance embodied its environment. In the piece that I’m referring to, First Supper (After a Major Riot), took place in a site that had a charged history having been the site of some of the bloodiest of the LA race riots of the 1970s. Another performance that utilized a different “tactic” was The Stations of the Cross, which involved Asco’s parading through the street to the enlistment office and placing a 15-foot cross in front of the door. This performance employed movement rather than space.

  7. cleasure

    I think the idea of tactics is especially associated with and applicable to social intervention performance because of how politically and, of course, socially charged the demonstrations can be. Whether your tactic is movement or space or a particular media that facilitates the circulation of your ideas (as in Asco’s “No Movies”), it can be most important element of your performance. What I took from the idea of tactics was that the most important element in an intervention performance is the way it is executed.

  8. desibrink

    Besides having a super awesome name, Alejandro Jodorowsky is relevant to current art students because he has such broad methods in his work. Anyone who uses comic strips in their work, that isn’t a comic strip artist that is, just shows that they have a great sense of humor. That is definitely something the world lacks.

  9. desibrink

    I think that what makes the interventionalists work is the fact that they are funny, but their issues are serious. It’s hard to get people passionate about political issues, and by going about it in drawl, boring ways no body is going to care except those who are already really passionate about the cause. But I do agree that their messages aren’t always easy to read.

  10. heidirides

    Alejandro Jodor0wsky is pertinent to art students in general and us VaPA folks in particular because of his interdisciplinary aproach to art making. He didn’t limit himself to one media. His goal was to break down the boundaries between the various arts to create a more real experience. His work allows us to see beyond a particular medium to not be limited by it.

  11. heidirides

    The group movement in Mexico ended with the exhibit at the MAM because it then became a commodifiable object. It seemed to me the whole groupos movement was about public awareness and social issues. It did not seem as if creating something that could be collected and sold was the goal. After the exhibit at the MAM, the effectiveness of the movement and the context from which actions were viewed was altered, apparently for the worse.

  12. molly

    The term tactics refers to the creative strategies artists like Asco use to illustrate their issues with society. The Chavoya essay calls them “urban survival techniques” making the point that Asco, dealing with the struggle of the Chicano minority, uses exxagerated performances to disturb normalcy. Creative, Exxagerated ways to illustrate societal issues are the ones that get seen and talked about. In order to make a concept clear, one has to devise specific and detailed strategies, or tactics, that the audience it is directed at will notice and talk about.

  13. molly

    I agree with Heidi that Jodorowsky’s multimedia approach is a helpful example for those of us in the VAPA discipline. I also think since he was influence by popular youth culture, this also gives us a connection to his work. We can relate to his art because of his sense of rebellion and use of media such as comic books and rock music.

  14. Isaiah D

    The interventionists users manual was a lot more witty and ironic than I thought it was going to be. It does give me ideas on how to approach my project with an amount of humor but also to have actual meaning. There is a need to bring awareness to social inequalities.

  15. cmndrkeen

    I’m not so sure if I can really take some of Asco’s work seriously. Some of it seems like it may have been thought out, but most seemed pretty off the cuff and carelessly goofy. Such as the blessing of the building with the popcorn. And the fur purse costume. There seems to be no reason for the fur purse, as opposed to the use of skeleton masks.

  16. cmndrkeen

    Another thing about Asco, I cannot believe what the gallery curator said to them when they requested a showing. “Chicanos don’t make fine art, they make folk art or are in gangs.” That is one of the most terribly racist and unfounded ideas I’ve heard in a long time. I’m so glad Asco graffitied the enterances after that. As opposed to the weird Crucifixion parade, the signing of the entrances had valid meaning for me.

  17. proverbs3v18

    Non-Group – The work in which they put lunch-boxes on chairs fascinates me. It brings up the discussion of the artwork and the art object. In my AH 300 class, it seems to me that art can be a work and an object at the same time – but perhaps it depends on the medium and the intent- the weaving, sewing, embroidery, etc. of the fiber arts were generally put into ceremonial or utilitarian forms, yet they were charged with something more – a cultural significance or artifact if you will, that makes it a significant object and work. The example of the border-crossing shoes by Werthein however, seems to me to follow the same kind of work/object art ambiguity. Certainly, at any given moment, an arpillera, a rug, a shoe can be used as an object– but on the same token, it is invested with the possibility of being something more…Potentiality. Grasp it!

  18. proverbs3v18

    I do not think it is a problem that art and art venues “become” objects/institutionalized. In fact, I think that is just a reflection of the changes and flux of the art world and society. Art is like a drilling sample of the earth, showing at that moment the layers of culture and which thoughts, actions, ideas, etc. are most prominent at the time. Nothing is necessarily concrete, as stated in class – things change, as the times do. However, we have something called History, in which people document the who, what, where, when, why, and how of these things – so in the future, students will study these movements like we are now.

  19. elpetty84

    I aloso agree that the “Bad Sports” interview was so funny. when i intially looked at it i thought for sure it was going to be about an interview of what the title intended, about sports. After listening to it i wanted to find more interviews and radio like it. I would love to listen to two guys talk about one guy’s love for Keanu Reeves and the so called unrequited love that the other one will not receive because the other guy believes that he has a connection with Keanu Reeves when in reality he doesn’t. Also the brief discussion on Harry Potter was completely random, but it made me want to listen to more of the the show. i would seek this guys out and find more of their stuff just to see what else they talk about.

  20. elpetty84

    I didn’t quite figure it out right away as to what was the incentive that the artists did these projects. The “Me Casa, Su Casa” project was to unite the concepts of the private and the public lives of people by exchanging keys that represesent their personal and public lives. The next project, “The Good Rumor Project” was my favorite one, it made me think how great it would be to hear good rumors instead of bad all the time. I thought all but one of the projects were good. Then there was the “Brinco Jump” project, i mean why would you create a shoe that would help even more illegal immigrants cross the border. Sure their lives are bad where they are now, but don’t give them another way to get over the border more efficiently. Then there was the most unique project that was done was done by Joao Lauro with turning that old European car into a piece of art and then selling it at an auction in beyond brilliant.

  21. kkomaenge

    The institutionalizations work chooses very serious issues, but I think they were trying to make that very funny so people understand their work easily. However, it was kind of hard to follow their work and people might find it hard to catch the point of their work.

  22. kkomaenge

    The “non-Group” lunch box artists put their subject on the chair. That is kind of interesting to me. People can chose from artists’ work, but it might stressful to artists if they see which person chooses which subject. It is interesting because most people perform on their own but in this artist’s work together.

  23. Trinityblk

    After discussing in class and thinking on it further I have made osme clear delineations of what I consider successful and ineffective in the performance art wold.

    The links above that we reviewwed made it clear to me that it is the legacy of an art piece (performance) that is what makes it successful, not just the moment it is performed. It a piece makes a social impact (such as the boarder crossign shoes) and is talked about is books, blogs and class rooms then it is successful. If a piece is performed and then forgotten then what was the reason for the piece in the first place. Since this type of art does not (can not) hang on a museum wall for decades/centuries then it must leave some type of social footprint to make it a truly successful piece.

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